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Best military style rifle for hunting deer, please help.?
was looking for something not overly bulky and with the look and feel of an m4. i am new to hunting and am in the army, wanted something thats similar to what i work with so that i can practice at the range and hunt with the same weapon as well. i figure the more closely it resembles an m4 the better off i will be. is it an appropriate weapon for hunting deer or boar. i am also interested in the .450 by bushmaster as it has a similar look and feel to the m4 could you tell me the difference in range stopping power and what would be the best. thanx el hefe
I build custom AR-15's and have sucessfully hunted deer in Alaska with the AR-15 in 5.56mm (223 Remington).
Taking your AR-15 M4 hunting is a great idea! Although the 2nd ammendement says nothing about hunting............ our society is starting to judge firearms by being 'good for hunting' and 'no good for hunting'. The AR-15 has a bad rep as a hunting rifle - but - not when my friends, ex wife, or I use it.
We have taken good one shot kills with the old 55gr bullets. Now Sierra, Hornady, etc are making much heavier, better flying, and more powerful bullets in the 70-80 grain area. The Barnes 70gr triple shock is a real deer slayer. The trick to making these work - a 1:7 twist barrel. These are becoming more and more common every day.
To take down a deer you need about 500 ft lbs of energy. Nearly any magnum handgun and center rifle can muster that - the AR has no problems here. The issue with using these for hunting is the ability to sucessfully pull off a 'quartering shot'. This is when the animal is not presenting a good broadside target or is running and you need to shoot through a front or rear quarter - the bullet needs to pass through the quarter without destroying the meat and have enough retained energy to lethally damage vital internal organs. A 223 Remington with standard 55 gr bullet can not do this. However, many of the new bullets in 65-75 grain can do this. You need to avoid the HPBT (hollow point boat tails) and using fmj or green tips - even though you probably can get them for free........ save 'em for practice and hunt with a good high end and highly effecient bullet. Again, that Barnes tripple shock will expand into 4 razor sharp pieces - all copper, no lead - and once these break off the remaining 60% of the bullet is free to travel into the vital organs. This round, and others like it, are the ones to us.
I have looked at the other calibers available for the AR-15. I think if you do not own another centerfire rifle - these things make sense. Very, very seldom you get an AR lower that is disabled in the field - usually the upper. So if you bought an AR, then bought a .450 or other caliber upper later on - the older upper would actually work as a back up. DO NOT buy the rifle with the dedicated upper from the factory - you really want that 223 upper for practice and back up!!!!!!!!!!!
Hope this helps.
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